Police told him about an exchange that Manson and Crowe had at the jail. Charlie had no idea that Crowe had survived the shooting, and walked past him on his way to or from a pretrial hearing. Manson told Crowe, “hey man, hope there’s no hard feelings!” Bernard Crowe did testify against Manson at trial later that year, but by that point Bugs was already entrenched in his prosecution based almost solely upon HS.